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. if a crisis can be averted. if democrats and republicans can come to an agreement on the big fight that has been frankly smothering american politics for weeks now. president obama announced earlier today that he wants to see a deal done by tomorrow on the big debt ceiling fight that has consumed every bit of oxygen in d.c. for the last few months. the president saying tonight that congressional leaders are on the clock. they have 24 to 36 hours to get a deal done. as planning a vote that the u.s. government should not default on our debt and shut down comes down to the wire, we are inching close enough to the edge here that two of the world's major credit rating agencies have warned that our national credit rating may be downgraded as a result of this standoff. the day that the u.s. would actually hit the debt ceiling and start going into default and shutting down is august 2. but this does not mean that we have until august 2 before we lose our national credit rating. that could just happen right now. because of the uncertainty and because of how long it is taking to get this done. right
's to resume their position because there's an answer to the big question. >> lilia luciano on verdict watch for us in orlando. thank you so much. >>> i want to bring in our legal panel to talk about deliberations and which side did a better job of proving its case. we have diane dimond and former prosecutor wendy murphy on the right side of your screen. thanks to both of you for joining us today. >> sure. >> before we get started, i want to play a bite from defense lawyer jose baez who on monday raised the issue of reasonable doubt, telling the jury they have it. take a listen. >> these are the facts that you have heard. and these are the facts that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that casey anthony is guilty of murder in the first degree. reasonable doubt lives here. it's throughout the case. it's right here. it's with these individuals. it's with those individuals. it's everywhere. you can't trust this evidence. you can't. >> all right. so we started with the prosecutor first. wendy, let me start with you. did the prosecution remove any reasonable doubt? many say that jose baez may have a
's here to dish on the debt and deal in taxes. and big money, big problems? mitt romney's campaign is debt free, but where is all that money coming from? we'll tell you why it could add up to a little bit of trouble for the republican front-runner. good morning, it's monday, july 18th, 2011. i'm chuck todd. just 15 days until default day. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. it's a week of public spectacle and private wrangling. efforts to get a big debt deal done has failed. >> when you look in the past at agreements between divided government, it's taken leadership on both sides. it took reagan and o'neil. it took clinton and gingrich. the president is out there. he's willing to do it. he said it in the state of the union, he said it in the budget. the question is, do we have a partner to work with? and i hope the answer to that is yes. >> this week we'll see a two-track process. publicly, leaders will get a few votes out of the way to allow conservatives to get on the record on a balanced budget amendment and set the table that nothing besides the final deal can pass. meanw
into the deep south where heat is going to remain. a big ridge of high pressure in control there and the drought will continue to worsen. it's not just the heat, it's also the storms. usually the big area of high pressure like you see on the map, you get storms to the north and east side of it. we'll see severe weather in the northeast and the coast guard still looking for two missing boaters out of chicago. they had gusts over 60 miles an hour in a storm and they overturned some of the boats in the water. back to you. >> heat still dangerous across the country in many places. >>> casey anthony has been a free woman for almost 35 hours, but where did she go and who is helping her as she transitions back into society? kerry sanders has the latest details shortly on that. >>> treasury secretary tim geithner speaking this morning that this morning specific items regarding the debt deal. one of the options that senators harry reid and mitch mcconnell or working on raising the debt ceiling in exchange for $1.5 trillion in cuts over ten years. this would also create a new congressional panel that woul
guys to protect the fat guys and corporate jets and big super rich. you're expendable now, crack thinkers. don't you understand? they play you against the poor and you're skpentable now. let those guys handle it. they got to protect the big guys. >> now know, that is coming from john mccain whose campaign might be compared to custard, except custer's came out better than mccain's did. in 2012 a conservative will be elected so i think that will speak for itself. his his brand was she lacks in 2007 within 2008. mine won the house of representative by record numbers in 2010. >> yeah, but now your brand of conservative is told, get your butts in line. don't get too big for yourself. because you've done your job. you're saving the corporate jet guys. you're closing in making sure to protect the loops holes. now just shut up and let us handle it, we've got movies it watch. thank you judson phillips. thank you for being here with me. >> thank you for having me. >> hosts of the bill press show on sirius radio, gentlemen, it is quite interesting, looks like mr. boehner is trying to get a
. and carney saying that tomorrow is a big day and everybody has to either come to an assessment that we can do a significant deal and they were talking of course of the $4 trillion deal until the republicans pulled the plug on that last weekend, and they have to come in friday, and friday is shaping up to be something of a deadline, and meanwhile, tim geithner, the treasury secretary up on the hill behind closed doors talking about the senators of a doom and gloom scenario is nothing is done by august 2nd, and the united states has to begin to default as carney and other white house officials call it hypothetical and insists that the country will not default and some arrangement will be made, but it is not clear what the path of the arrangement may be before august 2nd, tamron. >> and what about the report that the president was mulling over a bipartisan meeting at camp david and there is a quote at nancy pelosi saying it is not a good idea many her opinion, because the rsvps have not been released as politico pointed out, but what is story here? >> well, everybody is backing away from somethi
republicans. that would offer a big challenge to mitt romney. >> keith, why is at this moment rick perry holding out? >> i wish i could tell you what's going on inside rick perry's head. i think he's probably deciding if he's a legitimate candidate. if he can win the gop nomination. i think he is threatened by michele bachmann. i think she's sort of obviously protects the same type of people that are part of her base, part of his base. there's the question of electablity. if he wins the gop nomination, could he win the presidency? could he beat obama obama? i'm not convinced he could. >> what do you think, john, who would be the builtest threat to barack obama of three? >> i think romney would be the biggest threat. i think perry would come in second and i think that bachmann could would come in third. mitt romney has the organization out there. he has a compelling story when it comes to turn around artists. he turned around the olympics. he turned and massachusetts and turned around -- i think people want a turn around artist. perry has a story to tell about what he's done in texas as f
to ask the big oil companies to give up one dime not one dime of their $4 billion annual subsidy. they have refused to ask big corporations to give up one dime in their corporate loopholes. what we are negotiating with is a group of people who won't compromise. a group of people who have said we want the middle class to pay more taxes so that big corporations can pay less. we want seniors to lose their medicare so that big oil companies can continue to foost on their subdis. that's what the problem is. >> the case that republicans have taken a hard line on talks, at the same time democrats are taking what sounds like a hard line on entitlements. let me read a statement from leader pelosi that says we continue to oppose benefit cuts in social security and medicare. these pillars should not be used a as piggy bank to subsidize tax cuts for the wealthy. are democrats not just as guilty of failing to compromise as republicans are in this case? >> no, absolutely not. what we have said and i think most americans would agree with this is the middle class and seniors should not be asked
for a revenue hike. >> i disagree with that. >> you're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. because the public supports a balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not just one sector or a limited number of sectors from the society. >> let's listen to what the president said last night, to voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have vote
to raise the debt ceiling. everybody fr everyone agrees. this is big for the republicans. never done before with a long-term budget plan to bring down the deficit. now everybody agrees also there has to be a balanced approach. they agree to $1.6 trillion in cuts and what the president is saying is there's $400 billion in tax subsidies. tax give ways, as al you mentioned, tot hedge fund managers, that we can no longer afford. now if republicans don't buy that, as david brooks said nothing in the new york times, they are idiots. they don't know how to govern. they won. they ought to take this deal. >> mr. brooks, conservative columnists, is saying come on. you are marginalizing yourself. can't even you even hear from your own people that ideal logically agreed with the republican line. >> well, look, reverend sharpton, you showed some polls a minute ago that showed 70 or 8 30ers don't agree with republican owns this or that or the other thing. if the republicans are standing up for their convictions and beliefs against the tide of public opinion, it may be political courage an political decis
>>> good thursday, everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. we begin with breaking news out of texas, where authorities have arrested an army private assigned to fort campbell, kentucky. officials found bomb-making materials in his hotel room. that arrest came after someone reportedly overheard the private threatening to stage an attack on the army post at fort hood. fort hood was the scene of a deadly shooting attack in november 2009. major nadal hassan is accused of killing 13 people and wounding dozens of others. pete williams has the latest from washington now. pete, what do you know about this arrest of the private? >> reporter: right. well, good afternoon. you saw killeen, texas on that map. that's where he was arrested. he's a private first class assigned to fort campbell, but arrested in texas yesterday and according to law enforcement officials, what happened is he went into a gun store in killeen, texas and was asking questions that the gun store owner thought was suspicious. he was also buying smokeless powder which can be used for a variety
i'm thomas roberts. rupert murdoch will testify at parliament tomorrow, this is the big headline, all over the phone hacking scandal that's rocking his media scandal. meanwhile there was a new arrest of a top exec over the weekend, and now the head of scotland yard and his assistant are resigning. if you're keeping score so far, there have been three high-profile resignations, ten arrests and it is not over yet. jim maceda is live in london to bring us up to speed on this. jim, good morning. >> reporter: hi there, thomas. make that four high profile resignations. just a couple of hours ago scotland yard's number two, john yates, also resigned under increasing, extraordinary, really, pressure. that on the heels on his boss's resignation last night. commissioner paul stevenson, he was the head of scotland yard. he, if you will, fell on his sword and said that he could not in good conscience continue with all the challenges to keep the peace in great britain as he and specifically his relationship with the murdock media empire became such a focus of attention. he was calling it a ma
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze these two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do >> i don't think he can do that, chris. when
of the substance of the proposal, it's too big. there is no time to get something this big done before the august 2 deadline. it literally cannot be passed through the senate in time even if everybody likes it. the other rainbow/sunshine problem here is the president and the senate agreeing on this or anything doesn't get you further towards raising the debt ceiling, it's not just the president and the senate, it's crazy town down the hallway too, it's john boehner's republican house, that likes the idea of the nation defaulting, that thinks the explosion of the economy might be pretty or at least warm for a second. they are not looking for a good deal or achieve particular policy objectives, regardless of what they get, they are not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. the republicans who are running for president from the house of representatives, for example, are not saying don't raise the debt ceiling unless, don't raise the debt ceiling until, they are saying don't raise the debt ceiling at all. let's see what happens. this is how republican congresswoman michele bachmann's first president
't pass their own plan? breaking news tonight, speaker boehner delays the big vote indicating he does not have votes to pass it. it all raises the big question, has the tea party taken control of boehner's house? >>> plus, wouldn't you love to know what mr. economy thinks about all this? too bad. because mr. romney is not talking. how's that for leadership. >>> and waiting with wait until you meet the latest extremist to log on to perry's prayer route. i'm al sharpton. breaking news. boehner abruptly delayed a make or break vote on his own debt plan. the speaker frantically been trying to whip up support from tea party republicans all day long. it is an indication that he simply does not have the votes to pass his plan. it is unclear when the vote will happen. the fear here would be a stunning setback for his leadership and for the g oo p establishment as it battles with party members. joining me is nbc's luke russell live on capitol hill. luke, can you tell us what is happening here? >> good evening reverend al. an alarming piece of news that came to us about 15 minutes ago. democrat
cameron himself. no break in this london fog. give the prime minister a hurrah. i'm chuck todd. the big, brand new nbc "wall street journal" poll, and the revived gang of six which the white house is seizing on to give new life to the president's push for a big deficit reduction deal. the bipartisan group's proposal is still in outline form. they would reduce the deficit by 3.7 trillion over the next decade, cutting discretionary spending, defense spending, overhauling entitlement programs, rewriting the tax code by lowering rates, getting rid of deductions that overall would generate a trillion dollars in those deficit cuts. the plan got an enthusiastic reception from the white house and senate rank and file. watch. >> we now have a bipartisan group of senators who agree with that balanced approach. we have got the american people who agree with that balanced approach. >> 49 senators came to the room, and you know what, there were no fist fights, there were no -- there was no swearing. >> i think they're creating a vital center on what is the most important issue facing the country. >>
have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
by putting big entitlement programs like medicare on the table there. even before the president's event began a short time ago, house speaker john boehner fired off the following tweet, saying, quote, will you take job-destroying tax hikes off the table, end quote? how to add to the mood hanging over tomorrow's debt summit listen to this exchange between the leaders of both parties today. >> it's ludicrous for the administration to propose raising hundreds of billions in taxes at a time when 14 million americans are looking for work and job creators are struggling. does the president now think the economy is doing so well that unemployment is so low and economic so rapid that we can take billions of dollars away from these very same job creators? >> will we be the kind of country that protects tax breaks and giveaways for the richest corporations while sacrificing seniors and the middle class? that is the america my republican colleagues have proposed. >> luke russert joins from us capitol hill. the president says he hopes everyone will leave the politics and the ideology at the door. do you
>>> the big divide. congressional leaders return to the negotiating table in a few hours trying to hammer out a deal. the two sides farther apart than they've ever been. the question is, if not now, when will a deal happen? >>> the extreme heat is the number one killer in the u.s. claiming more lives than tornados, floods, even hurricanes. how bad things are getting across the country right now. >>> praying gay away. the secret videotape involving presidential candidate michele bachmann and her husband's clinic. does their business claim to have a cure for homosexuality? calling rupert murdoch, the media magnate and his son have been called before parliament to explain the phone-tapping scandal that could bring them down. >>> i'm thomas roberts. we get to president obama preparing for another round of debt talks with congressional leaders as the clock continues to tick. speaker boehner reenforced his party's message and put pressure on the president this morning. take a listen. >> this debt limit increase is his problem. i think it's time for him to lead by putting his plan on t
on to as a pass towards raising the debt ceiling. i'm sure that was an edified discussion for their big senate plan, which the president likes, but it is not the president and the senate who need to get together to decide this thing. it's the president and the senate and the drunk kids at the other end of the building who are setting their barbies on fire and cooking metal in the microwave until it explodes. watch it burn! watch it burn! honestly, time for a reality check here. house republicans are not trying to drive a hard bargain and get the best deal possible. house republicans do not want to raise the debt ceiling. for anything. they would please not like to raise the debt ceiling. they would like to go into default, thank you very much. house republicans have been actively making that argument for weeks now that hitting the debt ceiling, oh, that won't hurt a bit, who cares? republican congressman mo brooks of alabama told the washington post this week that on the contrary, all credit rating should be improved by not raising the debt ceiling, which is like saying you're looking forward
is anything more than a big wet kiss to the right wing, and -- and i mean the tea party. that's who i mean. it's too bad his caucus is being run by such a small number of people. >> what will happen between this very moment and a potential vote tomorrow is anyone's guess in the town that is washington, d.c. amid all the bickering and tinkering, the nation is just six days away from a first ever general default, and the treasury reiterating in a statement moments ago there is no guarantee the government can meet all its obligations after an august 2nd deadline, so what are the remaining options for our dysfunctional government? nbc's kristen welker is at the white house and let's also bring in luke russert on capitol hill. kristen, we know both sides are crafting their budget deals, both trying to take the high road, but are there any signs that the differences between the two sides are narrowing, and does it seem as though they may conflate these two plans? >> reporter: well, at this point we don't have any indication that they are going to conflate the two plans. we should say there are, of c
matthews down in washington. leading off tonight, too big to fail? here are the two things to take away from mitch mcconnell's offer. one we are no longer looking at democrats versus republicans or liberals versus conservatives. this is a fight between the leaders and protesters, people who are responsible for america's financial health and those who never have to worry about an election. second, money talks, b.s. walks. when major financial groups told the gop that default was not an option, they suddenly saw the light. as phil graham once said -- -- we learned that many on the right only pretend to care about the debt. what they care about is shrinking government and lowering taxes. tonight we're going to put a spot light on the unsupported republican claim that somewhat higher taxes for the better off means fewer jobs for everyone. also, the rupert murdoch scandal has claimed another victim. murdoch has dropped his bid to buy british sky broadcasting tonight. will it threaten his holdings here in the states? >>> the latest poll on republicans may show that mitt romney is in more trou
. >>> the big business of gay marriage. one day before same sex couples tie the knot in new york, how some companies are planning to cash in. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. welcome to msnbc saturday. we have two developments in two deadly attacks carried out in norway that left 91 people dead. police have one man in custody suspected in both attacks. one was a bomb set off in downtown oslo, and the other happened not long after when a gunman went on a shooting spree at a teen summer camp at an island outside of oslo. martin fletcher joins me on the phone from oslo. martin, let's talk about what police are revealing about the suspect. what do they know? >> reporter: well, alex, he's 32 years old, and he's a norwegian. interestingly on his facebook page he updated his facebook page just a week ago, and on that he called himself a conservative and he called himself a christian and he said his favorite hobby was hunting. so this paints a picture of a man who seems to be -- well, how can you describe such a person? radical of some kind. the police are saying it looks like it was the
like to say as well just how sorry i am. >> my big question today, will one of the murdochs take the fall for the phone hacking scandal? of course you can reach me on facebook and twitter. to answer that question, let's bring in a reporter for "the washington post" style section. it's good to see you today, paul. what do you think? do you think that we're going to see either rupert or james take the fall? >> at this point barring any other revelations that's a big if i don't think so. the murdoch family controls about 40% of news corp. it has the board pretty much in its pocket. unlikely that they will be forced to resign as a result of this. in the absence of anything else happening. >> his board of directors whose responsibility has been to shareholders has been rather meek and silence on this scandal. now you have a director, tom perkins telling "the wall street journal" that rupert's a genius that and that the board thinks it needs him. how crucial is rupert to the future success of the company? >> well, rupert murdoch built news corp. from a single newspaper in australia in
that she could catch fire. look, when you start this thing, when you win iowa, if you win iowa big, that thing starts rolling through new hampshire and south carolina, it's over in weeks. i agree 100%. >> how was she going in philadelphia suburbs? how is she going to do in the i-4 corridor and in wisconsin? how is she going to do in new mexico, arizona? i would suggest, with swing voters not well at all. >> there's no doubt if you nominate michele bachmann, it's an enormous risk. the only conditions, i think, under which i believe she could win the presidency, if people say, if they did in 1980, i don't care, i'm taking a chance with this guy because what we got we can't stand, you get 9% or 10% unemployment, two more years, this country is ready for a lot of change. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart.  finally, there's a choice for my patients with an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation, or afib, that's not cause
. they are convincing one another that it is not that big after deal. so right now the white house's big hope and i don't think it is misplace said that if we go to do doom's days on this, the hope is people that get blamed will be the republicans. >> that's option 2. that's default. i've given you two options. >> it's not default if we don't stop sending out the checks. if we keep sending out the checks, it's not default. we didn't default in '95. we just got near to it. >> does the president then say, okay, i'll agree to the republican plan? what's the third option besides default and defeat? how does he force his point of view, which is a reasonable balance, two or three to one, spending cuts to revenue hikes. >> i have no idea. i should say they're talking four or five to one. >> how do we get to there then? >> he can't. on his own we simply cannot. we live in a country, the constitution, the constitution has ultimate power. a lot of people think he could ignore them by asserting constitutional authority, but that is really dependent on the supreme court. >> am i right that it depends on one man, j
think speaker boehner has been very sincere about trying to do something big. i think he'd like to do something big. his politics within his caucus are very difficult. >> well, here's what he means. in a new poll, we see the complicated political caucus they are dealing with. the number of americans who are very concerned about default has ticked up seven points in the last two months. then it was just 35% believe not raising the limit and risking default was worse than raising it and potentially spurring more spending. now 42% see greater risk in a potential default, 47% are more concerned about lifting the limit but the gap has narrowed. that gets you talking about the education of the public in the last two months. look at the republican side. the folks who have been more engaged in this debate since the outset, the numbers have only hardened. 66% of republicans are more concerned with raising the debt limit compared to 60% in may. that number rises to 75% among republicans who identify with the tea party. so this is the issue. and speaker boehner has said he would only raise the d
a big quarter from team obama. fundraisers are predict they will bring in more than the record breaking that george bush raked in in 2003. the campaign tweeted add midnight, we're closing the books on the first chapter of the campaign with 493,697 donors. what does that mean? if he averages $200 a donor, he's going to be at awfully close to $100 million. obama did average $200 a donor the first two quarters as a candidate. campaign keeps pushing back on that. but do the math. in our look at all things independent. in battle ground states and emerging battleground states, the independent share of the voters equal to the two major parties or ahead, all courtesy of a book called how barack obama won, some guy here may have co-authored. in iowa and texas, 21%. in montana, 35%. 45% in new hampshire. bottom line is this, we know elections are won in the middle. wept strong for obama in '08. but the big question is there such a vacuum in the middle that somebody tries to fill it from the outside? we're going to talk about that later today. as bloomberg was first to reported, tim geithner has s
house back to the table, back to talking about something big. now, look, we still got a long ways to go. it's a weekend of sales jobs going on right now that actually began last night when the president had the congressional democratic leadership over to start talking turkey. so that brings us to the other sticking point, the actual substance. everybody has to figure out what to cut. this isn't going to be as easy as folks think and both sides are moving toward a deal that would include a trigger to assure mutually destructive politically when it comes to the two big items being kicked to committees or joint committees and that's still being figured out, tax and entitlements. one incentive plan would kill bush tax cuts for the rich and key portions of the new health care law if somehow the reforms for the tax code and social security and medicare weren't agreed to and implemented by january 1st, 2013. the question is, is the penalty on the bush tax cuts sort of the idea that you're kicking this down, is that going to be enough to assuage some democrats who believe there's too many cuts
, use what we know are good skills at lying, erase her past or going to take a big payday although there is option three which is the money piling up in her account for men who for whatever reason, motives unknown seem to want to take care of her so she does have fans. i don't know if you saw the reports she does have fans. >> she has sponsors. >> sponsors is a polite way to put it. >> when we talk about the fact that she has money making potential to come to talk about the ordeal she went through, isn't it also a scarlet letter put on whatever organization decides to pay this woman? >> absolutely. when the adult entertainment industry, when triple x entertainers are saying our customers can't stand to have you involved with us, it's hard for a main stream organization to get behind her. >> tony what about the logistics for sunday? the reporting i've been hearing out of orange county florida they're not able to protect her other than if she were to call 911 and needed help they're not able to provide body guards or any services to her safety. >> there will probably be people waitin
brewer, covering the big news from coast to coast. the big story today, casey anthony will be out of jail in less than one week. moments ago, we learned the florida mother acquitted of murdering her own 2-year-old daughter will be released next wednesday, july 13th. on tuesday, she was convicted on all counts of lying to police. this morning, judge belvin perry announced what that would cost her. >> i will sentence you to one year in the orange county jail, imposing a $1,000 fine on each count. all four counts to run consecutive to each other, giving you credit for the time that you have previously served. >> that credit amounted to just over 1,000 days. let's go live now to orlando. nbc is outside the courthouse with the very latest on what has happened this morning. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, richard. that was six days short of the worst case scenario for those protesters that gathered around this morning outside the courtroom. certainly not comforting, not even six weeks or six months, not even six years is anywhere near what they wanted or what they consid
the battle on a short term debt ceiling because we can't put together a big one in one week's time. and you noticed the president had no statement in there, "i will veto a short-term debt ceiling." what happened to that? >> he didn't have that. i was wondering if you would allow if you ear in the president's position or advisor, you advised many presidents before. would you not tell him to stand up to his opponents? >> i would not tell the president of the united states to veto a short term debt ceiling. if, as a result, i'm going to throw my country into default over what? the president is willing to accept a clean debt ceiling with nothing. now boehner is going to give a debt ceiling with $1 trillion in cuts. why would he reject the good because it's not the best? >> my advice -- i think, pat, we've had this discussion on the show. pat and i sparred a bit in the last two weeks. i think pat, unfortunately, for the democrats standpoint is right. i don't mean you're right. you're more right this morning than wrong. if the president has to accept a short term plan which is looking more and mo
their candidates. >> we will stand, because we serve a faithful god. >> i think it's a big mistake for governor romney. >> there's a move afoot to try to blame george w. bush. >> to make an informed decision and then come back to talk to us. >> good evening from washington. two week's notice, that's what president obama gave congressional republicans late today, two weeks to reach an agreement on deficit reduction and raising the debt ceiling to avoid what would likely be a catastrophic default. the president said he won't accept a short-term deal and invited republican leaders to join his previously-scheduled meeting with democrats on thursday. he restated this is an opportunity to "do something big to reduce the debt." >> to get there, i believe we need a balanced approach. we need to take on spending in domestic programs, in defense programs, in entitlement programs, and we need to take on spending in the tax code. spending on certain tax breaks and deductions for the wealthiest of americans. this will require both parties to get out of our comfort zones, and both parties to agree on real co
is the big bad government is a threat to us. the consumer protection bureau as most americans understand is the government protecting them from abuse by private financial institutions. and they are terrified that the public will see that there is value to a public institution that can prevent them from being abused by private institutions because it undercuts the whole rationale that the government is always bad, always a problem. and that's why we are fighting so hard for it. >> congressman barney frank, democrat of massachusetts, ranking democrat on the financial committee. thank you for your time tonight. >>> texas governor, and gonna run for president guy, rick perry made a very surprising decision today that is going to upset some of his most ardent supporters. i'll tell you about it with a smile when i come back. >>> there are two things happening in rick perry's political life that are on a collision course. the first thing is that he plainly is going to run for president. he is leaking to the press that his wife wants him to run, she is actively encourage ing him to do it. he jus
'm a little bit of a restaurant of history. and there are a lot of real big things that have been gone in this country by executive order. president truman up until this point my favorite president of all times. integrated the armed services by executive order. couldn't get the congress to do it. there seemed to be little support for it my hometown senator left the democratic party buzz he did it and ran for president as a states rider. but the president did it. it was a bold move and as far as i can tell people like colin powell are very thankful that president truman did what he did. >> in the current case let me ask you about the whip count you were the whip and still a great vote counter are you and steny hoyer and nancy pelosi going to give john boehner an exit strategy with some democrat votes since it's clear he doesn't have enough votes just relying on republicans? >> if he were to come to the floor with a bipartisan bill, i think he would get bipartisan support. right now he's running this on his own within his own caucus. he is not involving nancy pelosi or steny hoyer or you
a new high. his latest attack on big government is our con job of the day. >>> welcome to the show, i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, are we closer to a deal or disaster? president obama and house speaker john boehner may be nearing a deal for a new grand bargain on debt limit. the president is meeting with democrats right now at the white house. presumably to talk about the deal. but any agreement would have to get past the tea party republicans in the house. and democrats say, they have a problem. >> the loudest shrillest voices from the republican party are not leaders but tea party extremists. >> they group of ideal ogs have grabbed the reigns and refuse to let go. it is the group who alone wants to drive the car off the cliff. >> but now, even boehner is saying republicans must compromise. >> i believe congress must act before august 2nd and i hope we are prepared to do that. at the end of the day, we have v a responsibility to act. >>> if the united states of america's debt rating gets downgraded, every interest rate in america will go up. >> joining me now is republican congress
. the one entity that could cut them out are heading towards cuts of their own, big ones. this, which we thank local and state government for, that's what republicans are insisting be brought now to washington. >> i think the situation we face is pretty urgent. as a matter of fact, i would describe it as dire. we have three really big problems, we have a spending problem, we have a debt problem, and we have a jobs problem. >> that's why i believe he went on to say it is important for us to fundamentally fix our spending problem and our debt problem and help get our economy moving again. so three problems, spending problem, he says we should fix that. debt problem, he says we should fix that. jobs problem, yeah, we sure have one of those. why doesn't he say we should fix that one too? john boehner said he's ready to fix spending and the debt but those two will just magically fix the jobs thing too? that doesn't need fixing on its own, it fixes itself? so far, anyway, that magic is not working out so great, president obama plans to meet with republican lawmakers again this weekend on sunda
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